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A Message From An Independent Conservative.
This weekends PR stunt or "unity" fest underscores a problem for the presumptive Democratic nominee. The problem can be summed up in one word: PUMA.
Since the end of the Democratic primaries the DNC has been plagued by this growing group of Hillary Clinton supporters who have pledged to vote against Barack Obama and reform the Democratic Party that is clearly more interested in power than moving the country forward. In recent weeks Democratic leadership has bombarded the press with a message of unity and a fall-back to the talking points meant to divide this country such as abortion.
So how much of problem does PUMA and Just Say No Deal represent to the Obama campaign?
A huge one and here's why:
PUMA and Just Say No Deal are comprised of Hillary Clinton's most ardent supporters and represent what Richard Nixon once referred to as the "Silent Majority". They are middle class values voters, the "Reagan Democrats", who position trust, personal and religious beliefs, a profound love for their country, and political education at the forefront of their political decision making. The PUMAS embody the fighting spirit of our founding fathers, driven by a belief that our country, not our political parties, should come first.
Immediately following the Montana primaries, the Obama campaign, DNC, and Obama supporters immediately began their attempt to win back the votes of the Just Say No Deal community. Understanding that this group could lead to potential disaster for the "presumptive nominee" the Obama campaign turned the politics of "division and distraction" to win back their vote. With hours of the primaries Obama supporters websites lit up with stories viciously attacking John McCain as a womanizer who abandoned his ex-wife for petty reasons and pursuit of a more attractive companion. The stories manipulated the relationship between McCain and former Wife (who has supported McCain in every campaign) and focused on a relationship strained by horrible personal tragedies that would forever-change anyone in their positions. The stories quickly faded, but displayed a disturbing reality that the Obama campaign would stoop to the lowest levels to win back support of the Puma Community.
In the weeks that have followed, the Obama campaign and his supporters have bombarded Puma Network bloggers with messages and stories of "how a McCain presidency would overturn Roe v. Wade". Of all the campaign issues that the Obama campaign could have chosen, they chose to garner support from the PUMA campaign by launching a campaign of fear-mongering surrounding the most divisive political issue of our time.
The message of unity from the Democratic Leadership has unfortunately worked with a majority of Hillary's supporter, but has failed with the quarter of Hillary's supporters who hold the power to destroy an Obama candidacy. The media, with few exceptions, has ignored this group and overlooked their strength; but Barack Obama and Howard Dean know they are in trouble.
Mr. Obama and Mr. Dean understand that Obama needs the 25% of Disengaged Clinton supporter to win the general election; a group that represents 4 million voters who would have easily changed the outcome of every election since 1988. Obama and Dean know that they must find a way to bring in new voting blocks because his base of support is simply tapped out. This Democratic primary season has brought forth the largest turnout since 1972. But as we learned in 1972, the groups who overwhelmingly support Obama are not likely to produce growth in the general election. This reality is reflected in the Obama campaigns attempts to now shore up support with the gay community and evangelical communities at the same time (it will be interesting to see how he handles this pandering).
Why Does Obama Fear 4 million?
The PUMA Community represents the most ardent, values driven and politically educated of Hillary Clinton's supporters. They do not fall for the traditional talking points of the political parties that are meant to drive a wedge between the electorate. When McCain was attacked as a Womanizer and accused of not supporting equal pay; this community researched the issues and pointed out the divisiveness and fallacies of the accusations. When Obama and his supporters brought abortion to the forefront of their argument, the Puma community was quick to point out that historically speaking the "Overturning Roe" threat has been disproved simply by the fact that after years of Republican judicial appointments SCOTUS has shown no desire to take up the issue. Obama fears the Puma community because they are not the typical single-issue voters who will fall for rhetoric.
The Obama campaign fears the voices of these 4 million who understand the issues and fear an Obama presidency. The overlook the populist rhetoric spewed on the campaign trail and understand that Obama has offered criticism without solutions. The most dangerous threat to the Obama campaign is a large grass-roots movement intent upon educating the masses who have been mesmerized and hypnotized by the Obama's tongue. The understand the inquality and mainpulation within the Primaries and are understand the lack of solutions presented by the anointed Obama. Moreover, they have proven that they will not be silenced. They continue to show up at Unity events and have forced the media to recognize their strength. The Obama campaign and DNC has attempted to ignore their voices and not acknowledge their strength, but the PUMA will not go away.
The next problem for the Obama campaign is fundraising. The summer months are typically the doldrums of campaign financing with most donations flowing in after the conventions. Obama flipped on his commitment to public funding because of this reason. The Obama campaign expected growth in the fundraising in May, especially in light of the heated primary race. Yet, Obama's campaign donations dropped by 33% in May, while Clinton's and especially McCain's increased. The Obama campaigns understands that he must garner the support of Hillary Clinton and his donors must be willing to help her retire her campaign debt. If they don't, there will be a backlash from even more Clinton supporters. However, Obama has no intention of pushing for a quick retirement of Clinton's $20 million debt. He know that the PUMA community is still donating to the Clinton campaign and the sooner that debt is retired, the sooner their donations will flow to John McCain. Obama is banking on the fact that Clinton's debt will not be retired before the conventions, thus limiting contributions to the McCain campaign by Puma's and the spending of contributions by McCain who is taking public financing.
What Keeps Obama & Dean Awake At Night?
The fear that the PUMA community and their silent supporters will realize the power of their fundraising. If just half of those 4 million who do not support Obama were to immediately give $10 to both the McCain campaign and PumaPac, the influx of cash would spread the Puma message like a wildfire through the media while providing the McCain campaign with the extra resources they need to overcome the wealthy who have funded 60% of Obama's campaign. If the just half of this 4 million were to contribute the media would be forced to question a campaign that they have more often referred to as a "movement", than as the "political campaign" it is.
The Biggest Fear
In his farewell address, George Washington, highlighted and re-iterated the long time fear of Political Parties that our founding fathers shared. They understood that parties that remained unchallenged and unchecked would eventually subvert the power of the people to pursue the power of the party. This weekends love-fest of Unity and the formation of HOUND (an organization formed this weekend by Dem. Leadership to promote party unity) are representative of the very fears of our founding fathers. PUMA, whether you agree with their members personal positions or not, embodies the spirit of American Independence and the spirit of our founding fathers that our strength lies in the people, not in political parties. Dean and Obama, more than anything, fear that the PUMA and Just Say No Deal Community will renew this compact and profound idea that "We The People" not "We The Democrats or Republicans"control this nation.
The independence and liberties that this nation has embraced and embodied for 232 years will never survive if we allow party unity to overpower the American spirit. Pumas understand that and Howard Dean and Barack Obama hope that the rest of us don't. So this upcoming independence day, embrace the beliefs of our founding fathers and when you hear the call for party unity, JUST SAY NO DEAL.
J Brown
June 29th, 2008
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42 comments:
I am silent member of PUMA. Switched from being a democrat to Independent. Will be voting for McCain this General election.
I'm a PUMA and I will never ever fall in line. Not only will I not vote for that unpleasant BO, I will make it my mission to enlist family members and friends to not vote for the fraud. The Dem Party went to far, they played dirty, they pushed their candidate down our throat, allowed their largest base voters to be verbally beaten and now they are telling us to fall in line. For that, I give them two middle fingers. That inexperienced candidate has managed to seal my conviction to vote McCain in November. Let the house of cards fall where they may.
PUMA!!
Colorado
I will donate and will not vote DNC anytime soon how dare they take for granted thier 1/2 of thier base.
Ga PUMA
PUMA and Just Say No Deal should help Senator Clinton if they truly supported her. They should be willing to help her pay down her debt before donating to Senator McCain.
It would give a strong message to Obama and Howard that we are still with Senator Clinton and support her now!
McCain 2008
Clinton 2012 !
Obama Never
The HOUNDS. Really, were no other words available. This alone is reason enough go to plan C.
I am donating to Senator Clinton's debt with each pay check from now until the convention.
I will be writing her in on my ballot. I cannot and will not vote Obama... I am still considering McCain, but my conscious is for Hillary.
The Dems did go too far in this campaign!
Hey Keith O - I have a question for you. A HOUND and PUMA meet in the forrest. Which one comes out grooming its claws?
HEY GUYS!!! OBAMA SUPPORTERS ADOPT OBAMA'S MIDDLE NAME!!! CHECK OUT THE TIMES!!!!
Ohhh the irony of it all. So PUMAs are cats and HOUNDS are dogs. Is this the best way to start a campaign for unity?
Note to the DNC, next time go for LITTER or NIP.
Okay, one more. HOUNDS - does this not have the same sex, sizzle, and seriousness of the faux Presidential Seal. I'm smelling the exhaust from the Obama bus.
I'm not a PUMA. I've totally left the Democratic Party. Actually I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me.
I have never seen so much flip-flopping and pandering as I do with Obama. He's a lousy senator (I live in Illinois), a lousy candidate and a lousy human being.
He will say anything or do anything to get elected. That makes him the wrong CHOICE for President.
That's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
Hell will freeze over before I vote Obama,I am a silent puma and have been a Dem for 30 years.
I have never been involved with politics. After all, it is just politics. But I am in that voting booth for every election.
During the last few months of the primaries, it became quite obvious to me that as a registered Democrat, the committee who is responsible for presenting the best individual for the job was in fact doing everything possible to avoid that. So I have to agree with Findalis. The Democratic Party has left me.
The DNC is still trying to use its power to force its members to "fall in line". That is not going to happen. This Country was founded with Freedom in mind, so now I am now a PUMA (People United Means Action) and hear me roar!
Regardless of what is said or done, it is EVERYONE'S Right to vote for the individual they feel is best for the job and that sometimes transcends party lines. Remember, there is no one in that voting booth except you.
Don't be a sheep.... be a PUMA!
www.blog.pumapac.org
After the primary fiasco, I left the Democratic Party and registered Independent. I have given funds to Sen. Clinton to retire her debt, I've donated to McCain. I will NEVER vote Obama in the fall.
PUMA all the way!
How can any candidate during a Presidential campaign, have to cut ties with his church and his pastor of 20 years and expect people to vote for them? What a scam. The DNC shackled the early ability for Clinton to gain momentum via obvious upcoming wins that would have occurred in Michigan and Florida, and by also weighting caucuses and districts in Obama's favor. It is now obvious, McCain in 2008, Clinton in 2012. Think, otherwise in 2016 besides still be bringing up Hillary's womanhood, they'll use code words for her age, as they now use for McCain.
Puma from WV: All 55 counties in WV were won by Hillary and, the next day, it wasn't even mentioned in the MSM. Instead, they made an all day big deal about John Edwards endorsing Obama! Lot o'good it did, too. Hillary went on to win Kentucky by 35% the next week. They didn't mention that either.
I will never vote for Obama! He's a fraud and Michelle is even scarier than he is. McCain '08..Hillary 2012!
Not all African-Americans support Barack Obama. I will not fall in line behind the DNC's leadership's selection of the much-less qualified candidate, Barack Obama!
And, by the way, it is getting very old to keep saying that any white person who does not support Barack Obama is a racist. Enough with this already.
PUMA NY . . . JustSayNoDeal.com . . . Clintons4McCain.com
NO I WON'T!!!
PUMA UNITED WE STAND!
Kentucky puma!
Though the Democrat Party left me a long, long time ago, were I still a Dem, I'd be a PUMA.
That said, when you stated "This weekends PR stunt or 'unity' fest underscores a problem for the presumptive Democratic nominee. The problem can be summed up in one word: PUMA," respectfully, I think you underestimated the problem.
For sure PUMA and Just Say No will cost him dearly.
But, then, there's the rest of us watching His Fraudlentness continue flip-flopping, lying, distorting, blaming, whining, evading, patronizing, scolding, disdaining, mocking, inciting and ignoring.
And if the Dems think we're impressed with their inexperienced, narcissistic, arrogant empty suit from Illinois whose portfolio is completely empty--as well as the other execrable traits he's exhibited-- well, let'em.
It won't be the first time they've operated in fantasy or believed that denial truly is a long, large river in Africa.
But it will be another presidential-election cycle when they'll be doing something else on Inauguration Day other than going to balls in Washington.
At first I was for Obama... no folks do not boo me, but unlike the kool aid variety something did not sit well with me. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up and everytime I haven't listened to that sign of danger I was left hurting by someone or something. Then the Rev. Wright thing came up and realized why... he had learned in the church of hate for 20 years and under the tutelage of Rev. Wright learned how to bamboozle the populace... the hairs were right. I watched the debates and saw the ummms and nonsensical answers given by Obama and realized he wasn't any thinker, for he needed a teleprompter in front of him and agreed with Hillary a whole lot after she answered the debate questions. Never a thought of his own.
I joined PUMA today and will be giving $20.08 TO HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN TO PAY OFF HER DEBT ON JULY 4TH AND URGE ALL HERE TO DO THE SAME... THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COMMENT HERE...
REMEMBER: Just Say No Deal!
Barb
My answer to Rendell & His HOUNDS:
Since you recognize that the Democrat's nomination system is un-democratic and unjust, why wait until 2012 to fix it.
Repair the damage that has been done NOW. Have Pelosi tell the supers, again, to "go with the Will of the People”. Nothing is more representative of the “Will of the People” than the People’s Votes.
Also, consider who can beat McCain easily and who will struggle to POSSIBLY beat McCain due to his lack of experience, credentials, maturity, knowledge, record of accomplishments, and true Americanism.
Tell Obama to take a hike, we want the real winner.
While you're at it, admit that Obama sent his thugs into the caucuses to steal delegates through the use of fraud, theft, threats and force. Over 2000 complaints were filed in TX alone, even with the phone lines jammed. Remember, Hillary won the legitimate votes and Obama stole the delegates. But, now that Obama has taken over the DNC I guess we won't hear anymore about that. Very un-American.
Oh, and did he ever find his Real Birth Certificate, not the fake he posted on his website with no seal and no signature. He's probably not even eligible to be prez. Why wait for the GOP to bring up everything including his wife's "whitey DVD" and Sinclair's proof on Obama's blowjob and cocaine.
NOBAMA
I am also proud to be a PUMA. I also donated to retire HRC debt. I will not give the DNC a penny until we clean the up the DNC after NOBAMa loses.
Proud PUMA here too. I will not vote Obama just on the principle of it. But my real beef is with Howard Dean, Donna Brazille, and Nancy Pelosi. They need to leave the DNC leadership, they single handedly have violated every single rule, principle and the spirt of democracy. One person, one vote. No caucus, no disenfranchisement, no half votes/half people. Restore the legitimate candidate with the delegates she earned and respect the popular vote. I am not a registered independent. I will return to the Democratic Party, when it returns to its own principles and its own base. Until then, no Obama, and let PUMA power prevail.
PUMA in the house in Vegas, baby!
INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE: Have I told you lately that I love you?
Please keep blogging! And don't forget the violation by the RBC of Regulation 4.25, Rule 13, Clause C, which addresses the equal status of "uncommitted" with that of named candidates. No votes can be taken from it, and yet, 55 were snatched and tossed like rose petals to the Harvard affirmative-action candidate. And for good measure, 4 were stolen from Sen. Clinton and handed to the chosen one.
I'm just saying...
According to a recent CNN poll, it's more like 7 million, counting both those who will vote for McCain and those who will stay home.
See www.turndownobama.com
It needs to be mentioned, acknowledged, something (!) that many who believe in the reasons behind this defiance are not official embers of any particular group. I for one am firmly on the NoObambi train but I don't believe I've officially signed up for any real PUMA membership.. although I keep a gif on my blog stating "PUMA" as I get a kick out of the meaning behind it.
My point is many pro Obama voices say there's only a few 100 of us, but I have a feeling there are many more of us who just have not joined any particular band wagon to stop the corruption behind his nomination.
Although none of us have all the no Obama blogs memorized, we see the names of blogs listed on other blogs (and yet) i still come across by accident even more blogs out there opposing Obama that aren't listed or weaved into the other movements yet... they all just haven't found each other yet because we're busy and DO have lives!
Look no matter what happens. We won't, we can't lay down and die as they wish (and command and threaten), and sit back quietly and allow this complete bullshit of a nomination to glide on through without a major protest to try and stop it.
Everyone is doing their part, the best we can.
Julianne B. said...
PUMA in the house in Vegas, baby!
Me too Julianne! Hotter than hell up here in MacDonald Ranch. God I hate this town! Been here 12 years, that's about 3 yrs too long!
I am a proud member of Puma, I have been a Democrat since day 1 which was many moons ago, hehe. I will never vote Obama.
Thank you for the great articles you write about. I love reading them all..
Bama4Hillary
Puma Proud
BJ,
There's no one particular PUMA group or set of groups to join. Many of us are PUMAs without ever joining anything. Just supporting and using the term is enough.
As for new groups that haven't had time to join 'coalitions' etc, if they want to get listed in a big list, try nobamanetwork.com . (justsaynodeal.com is overloaded, they are having such good luck giving interviews to media).
Because we're not organized and head-counted, I like to tell the bots 'how many Hillaristas are not voting for Obama' citing national polls.
The largest figure I've seen a direct cite for is CNN's 7 million.
Some people are talking about 9 million, I'd like to know where they got that.
In the beginning there was video tape.
and the Tape captured the Word.
and the Word was HATE.
and the Word sprung from the mouth of a Man.
and the Man was Wright.
And try as they might to keep the Tape from the people,
they could not.
After the lands of many caucuses had voted,
the Tape was seen.
And the Lord Obama appeared distraught
because the people cried out Why Lord?
Why did you keep this man of hate in your midst?
And the Lord appeared to them and spoke:
This man is not a man of hate.
You do not understand what goes on in his pulpit.
Hate is Love
Mocking is Forgivenes
Insults are Ecstasy
Everything you believe about reality is wrong.
I am the Light and the Way.
Afterward the Olbermann tribe was first to sing out:
YES! YES LORD!
Lies are truth!
Hate is Love!
Division is Unity!
Soon the CNN Tribe, and the Huffington Tribe sang out
in praise of the Lord.
And those who knew in their American guts
something was still wrong tried to speak,
but they were called racists and scoundrels and lepers.
And so the Arugulas worshipped their Lord in the public square
and worshiped St. Marx in secret.
And it came to pass that the Word of Hate was made normal.
And the march of the Lord went on as before.
The people pulled the wool back over their eyes.
And all was well.
And the Lord took a break to sneak a smoketh.
The power of the people reaches out over the NET, and even today, the words, WE THE PEOPLE, strike fear in the hearts of those that would try to under-mind the principles of our Nation.
Thank you for pointing out that a few dollars to each cause , will cause havoc to the Obama Campaign.
Donating somewhere is a good way to show we're serious about our vote in November.
Heidi Li Potpourri blog has several good links for donation:
to pay Hillary's debt
to fund protests etc in Denver
to help candidates who stood by Hillary and will help her in Congress
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/
I've been a IndiVoter for my entire adult life. Voting for what I think is right has been the mainstay of my existence for the entire time. The huge blocks of voters that intend on voting for their candidate because "he's black", "she's a woman", "he's a Republican", or "he's white" deserve the representation they get. I'm sure the Germans of the 30's didn't expect what they got in the end, but they swallowed what the Nazi party shoveled them.
Big media and both the major parties thrive on the division they've created. A third party would go a long way towards making the parties more responsive to their constituents. The President and all of the Congressmen should be put on notice that the average American on the street will not stand for a continuation of the status quo. The sad thing is we currently don't have a single candidate that is capable of making the difference. Right now it looks like we are going to have to stand the smell for four years in hopes for a better choice next time.
Why are we forced to choose the lesser of two evils? Obama is definitely the worse choice this time around. He's an extreme liberal trying to wear a moderates clothing. Most people haven't noticed or can’t see the suit doesn't fit. I think if he were to be elected, the "unveiling" would be a shock to the American people that I fear we would not easily recover from, and absolutely make matters worse. On the other hand, Jimmy Carter brought us RR.
Why are they called "Reagan Democrats" when they had already jumped ship and voted for Nixon in 1968 and 1972?
Also, I'm not sure, but I think it was Spiro Agnew who brought the phrase "Silent Majority" into widespread use.
Now that that's out of the way, 2 factors that should be included in the political discussion haven't been:
1. BO can't win without almost all of Clinton's supporters. That won't happen since she was pulling lower middle class whites back to the Democrats. They don't vote for frost belt liberals.
2. White liberal guilt. BO's entire candidacy is built on it. If you don't have a load of WLG, BO comes across as nothing but a BS artist.
If that were an attribute, we'd have president Huckabee.
Fwiw, what PUMA and justsaynodeal are all about is showing that in addition to losing the blue collar and rural votes which the DNC had already written off this spring -- now they're losing a bunch of latte Hillaristas also.
Somehow they don't seem quite as ready to write us off....
McSame is not the answer, so where does that leave ya?
I am a PUMA member and I am not silent.... I am educating others about why Obama is not a wise choioce in this Country.... The values that once held true for the democratic party have been the building block of the democratic party....The DNC might think they can give our votes to someone other than the canidates we selected. For every action there is a consequence Obama, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosie, and Brazile, PUMA is your consequence for stealing and and re-allocating votes and refusing to aknowledge the will of the people....Trust me were at 4 million plus just wait that isn't nothing..... 4 million + educate two others in why PUMA is growing quickly that's 12 million, by the Convention, we'll have well over 18 millon PUMA members .... Just wait to see what happens in November....You know the sad part is we aren't calling Obama supporters name and ridiculing them.... That is because we know we will not be defeated, we have other things more pressing to bother with, no time to slinging names and insults at others........Hillary in 2008 Or John McCain in 2008 BUT absolutly NO Obama......
I am one of those Kentucky Bible toting bitter people who will not vote for Obama.
FLIP FLOP OBAMA
Cannot support anyone who can not take a position on anything and flops all over just to get elected.
I thought in fighting against Obama you have balanced opinion- but no. The points you crash against Obama are either supported by Clinton or McCain.
Its quite strange i thought there were clear facts. (I see you have the same rhetoric identical to Obama who i am not going to vote for as well). There is no real clear detail you are giving that is unique to Obama alone(Flip-flop, DNC support, GOP support etc ..... new papers not reporting ... I dont see the sense
except one point He has different Ideology than me on Abortion and gay marriage that is all. -- all your facts are not clear and there is no clear proof to say Clinton == McCain in ideology ---they are not the same. So is that what i run away from Obama Rhetoric to find here also? please substantiate..
There are even other forums with many numbers that have been around for awhile with rich resources and lots of members and a large email list...
come to see for yourself at:
http://hillaryisourchoice.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php
read some other articles at:
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